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competitive in i.t. and you're seeing it in canada australia, u.k. israel, places where you haven't seen that leadership including china understandably is now moving in a direction to be more accommodating. what do you see. >> they'll give you $40,000 to come. >> gavin: repeat that. chile will give you-- >> $40,000 for free to just come and start your company there. here we are in america. everybody wants to come here. we say no, your you're too good for us. you graduateed with ph.d, we don't want you. go back and compete with us. >> gavin: speaking of going back, in china they have a program to encourage those to get educated out here, subsidized partially by the american taxpayer and then have the advantage of those folks going back home and they'reed opportunities. >> they'll give you hundreds of thousands of dollars to start one of the incubators. we don't get it. what this country did was it looked at the magic of silicon valley and what makes america what it is. they figured out its skilled immigrants. highly educated workers who create innovation. we want them too. now they're doi
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